The Diary Of A CEO with Steven Bartlett

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Monday, 24 February 2025 - 2 hours 40 minutes

She was trained to read minds, spot lies, and face danger - here’s what former Secret Service Agent Evy Poumpouras learned from protecting the world’s most powerful leaders

Evy Poumpouras is a former Special Agent with the U.S. Secret Service. She is the author of the bestselling book, ‘Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, Live Fearlessly’ and co-host of Bravo’s TV competition series ‘Spy Games’. 

In this conversation, Evy and Steven discuss topics such as, the dangers of getting easily offended, why you should stop asking people’s opinions, the top body language mistake that makes you look weak, and Evy’s ‘I’m not special’ hack for success. 

00:00 Intro

02:13 What Is Evy Doing for People?

03:42 What Do People Come to Evy For?

04:05 People Sabotage Themselves

05:38 Lie Detecting

07:01 How Do We Start to Become Mentally Strong?

09:31 The People You Associate With Can Impact You

12:35 Observe Your Opponent, Don't Listen to Them

16:22 How Does Steven Pick People?

22:11 Living Fearlessly

24:29 Making Decisions Will Increase Your Confidence

28:42 How to Stop Others From Controlling Your Life

34:56 Making Decisions

37:01 How to Make Progress in Your Life or Career

40:12 Reliving Your Pains Makes You Feel High

43:25 Sexism in the Secret Service

52:05 How to Make Rational Decisions

57:08 What to Do When People Are Not Treating You Well

01:02:00 Being Bullied in a Work Environment

01:08:14 What I Learned About Bullies as a Secret Agent

01:12:59 How to Stop Being Prey for a Predator

01:20:44 Can Someone's Life Be Determined by the Way They Speak?

01:22:34 Ads

01:23:33 The Importance of Gesticulating With Your Hands

01:28:08 Can You Fake Your Body Language?

01:36:28 What's Step 1 to Becoming That Person When I'm Not?

01:42:15 Do You Have to Go Through Difficult Times to Learn?

01:47:11 The Hack of Knowing You're Not Special or the Only One

02:00:59 Ads

02:03:02 People Don't Want to Be Victims Anymore

02:07:52 Should We Make People Like Us?

02:09:43 The Importance of Being Authentic

02:11:50 Why Rejection Is the Way to Resilience

02:14:19 The Four Communication Styles

02:25:31 Emotion in the Police Workforce

02:27:40 Switching Styles During Interviews

Follow Evy: 

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Website - https://bit.ly/4hHHQia 

Evy’s BBC Maestro Course - https://bit.ly/43dx1zZ

You can purchase Evy’s book, ‘Becoming Bulletproof: Protect Yourself, Read People, Influence Situations, Live Fearlessly’, here: https://amzn.to/4gMEv09 

Evy’s BBC Maestro Course - https://bit.ly/43dx1zZ

Watch the episodes on Youtube - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACEpisodes 

My new book! 'The 33 Laws Of Business & Life' is out now - https://g2ul0.app.link/DOACBook 

You can purchase the The Diary Of A CEO Conversation Cards: Second Edition, here: https://g2ul0.app.link/f31dsUttKKb 

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